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Selected Price Swings for 2008

by dd on Jan.04, 2009, under volatility, yearly returns

This chart shows the price swing for certain asset class proxies in 2008. The price swings are roughly correlated to total return or loss: the more price swing the more you can expected in total return. Even though standard deviation and beta are another approach to measuring volatility, watching the price swing is something most people do on a regular basis. After looking at these price swings no wonder people fret when thinking of investments.

Ranked by total return.

Doug

Stock Symbol %Total Return %price swing Description Low Price High Price
TLT 33.8 39 Long Term Treasury Bonds 88.59 123.15
VBMFX 5.05 8.3 U.S. taxable bond index 9.58 10.37
4.8 0 Stable Value Index
3.9 0 1 yr CD certificate of deposit n/a n/a
GLD 2.99 52 Gold Bullion 66.00 100.44
SHV 2.8 1.8 Short term Treasury Bonds 108.85 110.82
VMMXX 2.8 0 Money market mutual funds $1.00 $1.00
2.44 0 Money market account n/a n/a
0.70 0 Passbook rate APY n/a n/a
TIP -2.5 33 Treasury Inflation Note index 84.14 112.11
VWINX -9.8 27 40% stocks 60% bonds 17.18 21.87
VBINX -22 49 60% stocks 40% bonds 14.66 21.89
PFF -24 148 Preferred stock index 19.00 47.21
JNK -30 81 High Yield bond index 26.50 48.02
BSR -32.5 105 MLP Index 17.19 35.31
VTI -36.8 101 Total U.S. Stock Market index 36.32 73.07
VNQ -37 206 REIT Index 22.52 68.81
SPY -37.5 98 S&P 500 index 74.34 146.99

Note:

%price swing = (high – low) / low

which was taken from Vanguard’s calculation of price swing.

Stable value index and passbook rate are of 11-30-08.

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An Investment Tolerancy Chart

by dd on Nov.03, 2008, under index funds, volatility

Here’s a chart that shows what certain asset groups have done over the same time period in the face of nearly a 43% loss in the Dow Jones (since its peak of around 14,100 to a low of about 8,175). Dividend reinvestments are not included. Also, some of the other indices have swung more over a different period of time because they are not 100% correlated to the Dow Jones index.

The point of this chart is to think about the loss tolerance one can take. Individual stocks and bonds can lose even more than 43%. I believe most people cannot stomach the stock loss, though they like the gains.

I tried to pick broad asset classes. I left out foreign stock investing because they are more volatile than the U.S.

  Oct 9 Oct 27 %loss Index name
  2007 2008    
VNQ 76.08 33.19 -56.4% Vanguard REIT index
SPY 156.48 83.95 -46.3% S&P 500 index
NASDAQ 2803 1506 -46.3% NASDAQ composite
DJI 14,164 8,175 -42.3% Dow Jones Industrials
PFF 47.4 27.95 -41% Preferred stock index
HYG 104.33 66.25 -36.5% High yield bond index
SLV 13.395 8.85 -33.9% Silver trust
BSR 34.77 24 -31% BearLinx Alerian index (MLPs)
30 yr bond 4.864 4.105 -15.6% 30 yr US Treasury bond
AGG 99.44 94.25 -5.5% U.S. aggregate bond index

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